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which they know if I quite a few like

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say cases all actual you folks been seen

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at Lourdes age kailangan for the same

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right what you say yeah I thought I know

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things like pseudo a little bit I

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thought my theories on the Sun rich at

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me this book is super I have none

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but um yeah well we're here tonight and

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it's really nice to meet someone you

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like many people in one room at the same

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time how are you some type of the room

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dysfunctional Bucky is closed yes it's a

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bit like a wedding the shuttle yeah this

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is a wonderful experience but yeah we're

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here and you know I I'm really

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interested and what's been going on I've

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read a little bit about you guys I know

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there seems to be quite a lot going on

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in swansea and I don't know particularly

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why it is in Swansea but you've

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obviously catalogs quite a lot of

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experiences and seemed quite a lot of

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things so when you know what normally

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happens on a meeting like this how often

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do you guys meet up and what normally

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goes on when when Suppan gets together

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okay well we we meet up monthly on the

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last 20 every month the amount of we

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have come into the venue's varies quite

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a lot sometimes it's 20s and we've got

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as much as 65 70 before now all depends

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on do we got come along and shut in we

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have guest speakers some of them come

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quick considerable distances to to give

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a talk to us we had some big names in

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the UFO field come down to us now we've

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only been running about a year and a

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half and we really have had some good

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big names along or sure but rosie was my

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background oh I perhaps I can tell you a

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little bit how the group came to be

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formed then I had my own sighting of a

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UFO back in i think it was nineteen

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eighty-three North 1982 and I was

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standing half a castle hill

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at about midnight ish The Dark Knight

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summers night I was with another person

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there we happened to look up and quite

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high up in the sky there was a silvery

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object which was stationary and clearly

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it wasn't a helicopters far too high for

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that it was all the height though of a

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jet but it wasn't moving it was just

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stationary which was really on so paid

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attention to it for a little bit and

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then eventually this thing just took off

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at the phenomenal rate of speed I mean

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faster than anything I've known before

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and it clearly wasn't what I'd say of

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this planet that's dust the feeling I

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got of it do you think did you think of

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anything that was a bigger sound there

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was no sound whatsoever and see it

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definitely wasn't a jet it definitely

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wasn't a helicopter so what does that

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leave you know suttin station n moves

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off at a terrific fast rate than not

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well yeah we're here now I'm finally

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managed to find you guys and we're here

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for the meeting so we we know that stuff

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is happening here in Swansea which is

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brilliant because quite often you hear

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that it sits in you know America or

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South America or parts of the world that

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are just impossible to access yeah those

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one of the reasons why we decided to

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concentrate on local cases because we've

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got the facilities to call jet in on the

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world

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but you don't need to go jetting around

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the world cuz it's all happening in

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South Wales yeah so can you give a book

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can you give us an example of one of the

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sort of more prominent cases that you

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guys have investigated or loss but wait

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19 for Jeremy 1983 there was a very

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interesting aspect of sightings right

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across the South Wales area wrong

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Swansea in particular that we we've been

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you in about this probably about 25

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different witnesses in different places

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at the same time seeing very large

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triangular shaped craft sometimes in

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twos or threes right sometimes single

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sometimes as big as a car sometimes as

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big as a football pitch so again so

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close enough because quite often when

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you see things in the sky you can't

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really get perspective you can't really

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understand what's or size of Weber yeah

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you say people say these things were the

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size of a cart they were obviously

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coming in quite close yeah that the car

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sighs one was that was just so horribly

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it moved very slowly just over a roof of

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a house okay I found about this she

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can't all askme didn't tell us about me

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we were to interview the other day she

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was in in the street to take to streets

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after you too I I was news to me that

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somebody has had seen one in Long up to

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corrupt Roberts my story of what I saw

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yet an 18-inch craft triangular was not

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where I thought it was hovering 40 feet

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above the pavement so 10 feet above the

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house opposite me so I watched it for

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five minutes called family out my

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stepfather my sister they saw it they

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went back in which was the weirdest

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thing anyway and a lot of noobs on the

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street were looking at it too but I

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waited for it to go and when it went

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what it just disappear didn't see it to

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speak it was a very strange but no one

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else was on the street but when you talk

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about this you're trying to liken it to

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something that you can see in the

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stigmas the you know it could be a cell

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phone you know we all try to make sense

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out of what we're seeing yeah and also

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exactly what I was trying to do but

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there wasn't you know it I will you love

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you too I was 13 like I say to you want

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you to begin so that other kids in the

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school seen the same thing no just

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myself at my house I came back to the

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house I sit in the back of the house

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as far as his tent is get to the front

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door I just came up as no reason for me

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to gala I just realized when I got to

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the front doors I quite acting like you

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but then I see what I'm seeing and

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realized that is amazing you know you're

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amazed you just like we're 64,000 or

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question utley did it make the Chuck

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Chuck Chuck no Chuck Norris I

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pressurized kind of you know like you

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want to pop your ears like that when you

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go in here that feeling of like there's

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a heavy pressure around you know it but

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no is a pretty strange feeling actually

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because there was nothing there was no

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if a like I was report me because but it

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was like you could hear a pin drop it

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was like this silence the stillness it

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was January should be cold didn't feel

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cold no sound you know and again in the

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pastry nothing nothing but i was looking

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at lights and these lights that i was i

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was focusing on the whole time which my

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sister many years later told me she

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thought it was a dream what she saw but

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she saw like screaming at this

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conference now i don't even remember as

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a conference I just remember it being

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very black you couldn't see the stars so

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therefore there was known to you know

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I'm looking at the central part of it

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which is protruding down there's lights

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pulsing very hastily lovely kind of

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pulsating he said well when you spoke to

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that man you'll put your hand on his

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heart was it natural or Isis I don't

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want he said all right okay and I

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started tell him about the day and I

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thought this is rather strange and he

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you're a way to win them yesterday don't

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look like this yeah great it's the one

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of what are you join you and he said I'd

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come to experience the evolution I said

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ok and while you cure I said could you

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help other people and he said yes okay

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but it was a couple of weeks before this

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what I was having talks telepathically

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and I went onto a ship and it was a big

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massive auditorium with all different

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truth like different troops from all

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different with different planets and

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they'd all come together for a meeting

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and there was a big table in the middle

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with a high council and then we had the

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meeting about events that were happening

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on the planet and they were talking

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about the changes that were going to

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happen with the people i sought to be

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honest it was just imagining that no one

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when I'm having this telepathically and

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visually they'd been a lot of very

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strange things that were happening and I

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thought it was just my imagination that

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a very got a very good imagination but

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you feel and then you're talking near

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actually feeling I'm the conversation

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with them also nuclear power stations

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have both sort of been reported as you

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know sort of magnets I suppose we have

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this semester energy or the obviously

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really fueling if that's you know what

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you think it is and swap the stories and

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and evidence of photographs is there any

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other way you gather information for

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suit on group oh well one one thing we

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do just to help help people familiarize

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themselves in the night sky me all the

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very scary watches well we go out to

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know location somewhere nice with a good

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view in a flat ET yeah good

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conversations Samuel overcoats ya can't

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get cold here and we just look at the

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sky and it's quite fun watch we could

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see sap lights meteors is that I've aged

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10 valeo test we've done the go or we go

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a bit of a dark sky here sometimes at

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the swansea valuable Brecon Beacons it's

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quite good fun and as I say opposites

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familiarize ourselves with what's what's

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visible in the sky sook and we know what

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Sam some people don't know what sap lake

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would look like you're the International

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Space Station let's go ask because we

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were we were on holiday with the family

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the other week got a finale which is

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nearly 8 mb m I suppose and what we lay

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out from the look of the Lord it was the

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night of the first meteor shower we're

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selling myself just look at watching the

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Stars stomach pain or one by one and saw

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the sky was black and I stars everywhere

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and we counted only 15 different salads

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of different so it's very busy at them

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so do you think to an untrained eye to

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it I personally didn't understand that

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you could see I wouldn't follow the

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Carver so that's always what light

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pollution and you can see the

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International Space Station occasion

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you can't see the other side ways but in

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west wales they were very apparent so if

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you were to dark sky area of swansea

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could some you for sony's be SAT west

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unit i am well depends we can what we

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call a UFO sighted a UFO sighting to

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somebody who doesn't understand what's

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after that would look like would be a

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UFO second yeah gets to their miss

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unidentified so is it is that like watch

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basically a satellite is a pinpoint of

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light looks a bit that the star travels

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across the sky in straight line if it

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suddenly stops goes backwards or buffers

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or iron door or erratically and then go

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straight upwards you know obviously not